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USS Threadfin

In the darkness off Japan, Threadfin found large ships moving faster than she could follow. Before she could attack, she had to get the news away.

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A submarine on the surface with sailors in white lined along its deck.

1945 · catalogue attribution

Threadfin’s crew lines the deck as the submarine enters port. The catalogue tentatively identifies Staten Island on 22 September 1945.

US Navy / Wikimedia Commons; caption attributed to DANFS · Source · Public domain (source statement)

The place and exact date are tentative in the reproduced catalogue. This photograph does not show the encounter with Yamato.

Watching the approaches

Threadfin’s second patrol brought her to the approaches to the Bungo Suido, the passage between Kyushu and Shikoku. On 6 April, her report records aircraft, minesweepers and vessels conducting anti-submarine searches. The submarine watched from near Fuka Shima as activity increased around the route out to sea. YT-Y24

The report was submitted on 4 May by J. J. Foote. Its dated entries preserve the crew’s sequence of observations, but they remain an account written up after the events. The distinction matters when the men were trying to identify ships in darkness.

Large ships in the dark

At 1944, Threadfin picked out four ship echoes among the radar returns from land and islands. Two minutes later, the display showed two large ships and at least four smaller ones. Nearby vessels looked like destroyers. Foote judged that he had a favourable position for an attack, but the ships’ speed and his orders made it difficult to use. These times follow the report’s stated ITEM time convention. YT-Y24

At about 2000, the two large ships were visible roughly 10,000 yards away. The crew thought that one might be an aircraft carrier, although it was too dark to be certain. A footnote explains that they subsequently learned this was Yamato: her long, flat hull had contributed to the mistake. The later identification should not be placed in the mouths of the men at the moment of first contact.

The message before the shot

Foote records written orders requiring the initial contact report to be transmitted before attacking. To stay on the approaching destroyers’ tracks while doing so risked being forced underwater. Threadfin worked away from those tracks and tried to keep pace. At about nineteen knots, she was still losing position. YT-Y24

The initial report went out at 2020. At 2027, Threadfin opened the stern tube doors and prepared to fire Mark 14 torpedoes at a nearby destroyer. Another Japanese course change then took the target beyond range. The record describes a missed opportunity shaped by reporting priority, speed and manoeuvre; it does not describe a torpedo fired at Yamato.

Threadfin sent four further reports as the enemy changed course. At 2300, she deciphered a message cancelling the instruction that contact reports take priority over attacks. By then the promising position had gone. Contact was lost at 2348, and the submarine returned towards her patrol area.

Hearing the outcome

On the evening of 7 April, the crew heard that Task Force 58 had devastated the force they had followed. They had supplied information and attempted to gain an attack position, but had not witnessed the air battle or Yamato’s sinking. YT-Y24

The patrol report establishes Threadfin’s own contribution. It does not, by itself, reconstruct when every American commander received her signals or how each message influenced the carrier decision. Nor does an advantageous torpedo position prove that an attack would have succeeded. Those questions need other records alongside Foote’s account.

Read Hackleback’s separate account for the other submarine’s tracking and radio difficulties.

Return to The Last Sortie for the Japanese departure, then Under Carrier Attack for the battle the following day.

Evidence within reach

Sources for this page

Open a note for the passage, inspection status and limits. Source records link to the available documents.

YT-Y24USS Threadfin: Report of War Patrol Number Two

Original wartime patrol report · digitised microfilm scan

Passage: Second patrol: covering letter and printed pp.2, 11–14 / combined PDF pp.57, 59 and 68–71

Contact with Yamato’s force on 6 April; uncertain identification; initial reporting priority before attack; unsuccessful torpedo positioning; further signals; loss of contact and news of the air attack.

Checked: Six selected page images visually inspected on 20 October 2026. Complete scan retained from the Maritime Park Association’s publicly linked file. SHA-256 d4d3886fc5769eba93cfebd5940bb035ea18101779f29bb197f480d36ab98575. The scan has no usable extracted text for these entries; claims were checked against the images.

Limits: Participant patrol report submitted after events, not an independently verified signal-receipt log. Times retained in the report’s ITEM convention. Contemporary ship counts, speeds and identifications are estimates. The written reporting instruction and cancellation signal are described by Foote, not separately inspected order originals. Does not establish what an unmade attack would have achieved, or by itself reconstruct the carrier command decision.

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Photograph

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